trinko wrote:i oppose nudes because to be honest they degrade women and teach people that human beings can be objects to be used rather than people to be loved. lots of people hide behind the title artist but in reality art in a traditional sense plays little part in their work.
if by puritanical you mean feeling that the human body or sex is evil then i concur that's wrong. but there's a big difference between being puritanical and saying that nudity is of no consequence.
in any case all i'm calling for is some way to avoid accidentally running across nudes. when my wife was a kid there was a certain park in Berkeley that her parents wouldn't drive by because it was apparently clothing optional. the point is they had warning. all i'm asking for is that the thumbnails be devoid of explicitly nudity in the popular galleries. sorta like asking people to not go shopping for a pot roast in the nude--a courtesy that even our less puritanical European brethren support.
PBase isn't like an art gallery. the vast majority of pictures are quite inoffensive. And Pbase wants folks of all ages to participate, just like Walmart. Anyway i find it a bit bothersome when people define requiring an opt in to see nudes as censorship. i haven't asked for the photos to be removed. that would be censorship. Of course i think everyone on this topic approves of censorship, it's just we don't agree on what should be censored. Before objecting answer this would you believe that all of the following photos should be shown
1) child pornography
2) a photo extolling racism
3) a photo extolling the murder of fill in your favorite gender, race, religious group
4) a series of photos showing how to assemble a bomb
5) photos of someone doing something they didn't want to be public that were taken illegally in a private location
6) photos showing security around critical sites
7) photos of people in the witness protection programphotos that extoll torture
9) faked photos that impugned peoples reputations
10) snuf photos
11)pro nazi photos
12) photos showing how to make nerve gas
etc
the bottom line is that anyone with any sort of moral compass finds some things so objectionable as to agree that society has an obligation to limit their spread. hence they support censorship in those cases. the reason we have a first amendment is to limit the censorship to the minimal cases we can all agree on.
Anyway i hope PBase comes up with a solution or lets me know they're working on one before my sub runs up. Hate to leave for no reason.
I am new to this site but I just had to jump in here! As far as your question goes about censoring Child Porn that all depends on what you consider child porn. To many people feel that just a photo of a child naked doing every day kids stuff is child porn. I totally disagree with that! Now if the focus of the photo was on their private area or they had their legs spread with a sexual look on their face or they were actively engaged in a sexual act then yes that would be child porn and should not be allowed. It strikes me as funny that in countries that view nudism as a normal way of life for the whole family theres less crime, less teenagers getting pregant, children grow up better ajusted and with a better since of respect for them selfs then in this country where we view nudism as a sin that if any one were to do they would be a sick freak!
