Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:43 am erichmangl wrote:cbr_photo wrote:If there were a lot of emails asking for it to be removed, the "new" thing you get to learn today is that you never really new who the majority was to begin with. Nobody said two majorities existed at once.
i now (see, i learn quick) that the picture had a few thousand viewers before bob started his witch hunt - i bet he asked some of his friends to support him and write to abuse@pbase.com too since his single voice is worth nothing. for sure nobody wrote to slug at this time "hey, i like that picture on first page of popular photos":
your breathtaking fuzzy logic is right, the majority complaint
So the only way slug received enough complaints was because bob single handedly convinced enough people to "not like" the photo for whatever reason? That's your rebuttal for what you consider "fuzzy logic"? Is it not possible that the picture hitting the first page of the popular photo galleries was the catalyst which prompted a wave of complaints? Is it not possible Slug saw the pic and decided it wasn't appropriate for his website without a ton of complaints? No, you've decided it's bob. Bravo, that's brilliant.
It brings up the question, for those other paying members who don't want to see such things, what course of action is left for them? They can't "vote" the image to be removed... emails to slug are the only way. While I thought the pic should remain for the sake of artistic expression, Slug thought differently. And I can't argue that decision... Slug might really like the pic from an artistic/photographic standpoint, but think that allowing a pic like that would open the floodgates for alot of similar content in the popular galleries not intended to be viewed as art. And keep in mind, Slug didn't delete the photos from the website, just from the popular galleries. Obviously there needs to be some clear guidelines about what he finds suitable for the popular galleries.
The primary mission of PBase.com is to be the best photo sharing and photo hosting web site.
Where does it say pbase is dedicated to showcasing any and all forms of artistic expression? Who's to say the "prudes" on pbase aren't already compromising by not attacking images with just boobs? Is "liberalism" really defined by an unwillingness to compromise on any realistic level of maturity? "If they don't like it they can refrain from looking" seems to be the only solution coming from those who claim to be socially enlightened by culturally superior moral liberalism.
What would a decent compromise sound like from a "moral liberal" if they were to take into consideration this site is supposed to cater to a lot of people, in a lot of countries, with a lot of different religions and ideas about what is morally acceptable? I understand the site can't be everything to everybody, but is it really as juvenile as I've seen so far with no compromise whatsoever? It reminds me of the temper tantrums my 10 year old nephew has when he doesn't get his exact way... or those bone headed rednecks who shout "America, love it or leave it!" whenever liberalism tries to change conservative thought.
The pics were removed from the popular galleries in an attempt to satisfy the the diversity of beliefs found amongst all the pbase members, and were allowed to remain on pbase to uphold freedom of artistic expression. Does that really seem unfair?
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