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jet_liera
 
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Post Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:27 pm


I've seen this political war and frankly, it has caused my self-imposed exile from Pbase...
I believe that one important point has been missing here....Pbase is an 'international' place and noone would like to witness a fight going on between people from different countries...

Nowadays there are many conflicts going on worldwide, and citizens from those countries, are posting here their works without attacking each other..that's quite a roll model to be proud of....

So, it just didn't make sense the 'civil war' going on between people living in the same home country...

I am not trying to be judgemental, and i agree in the removal of conflicting material from Pbase...my only observation is that it took too long to realize that something was not quite right, as if no rules were being broken since day one...

That hesitation is what makes me wonder...
It's obvious that it was against rules, or common sense, the first day, as several weeks after;
1.- why let it stay going for so long ?
2.- when, and why did Mods decide it was time to call it quits ?
3.- why ALL galleries at once ?
4.- How did those galleries keep getting votes if they were so unpleasant?
5.- Is there a way to manipulate the votes in Pbase?

Next is a reflexion with no foul intention to Don or anyone else for that matter - I haven't had any problem with Don in the past, and he knows how i respect him and his work..- an obligated disclaimer-

i ve had the opportunity of being a witness when in the past Don has been involved in his share of disagreements with some members of this fine community, and at those times threads had to be closed and many members were against Pbase policy of giving Don the freedom of speech...i thought this was the way Pbase was doing its part for enforcing freedom of speech...i thought it was a standard policy not to ban anyone just for expresing his/her ideas....
So it really surprised me when i heard about this new twist in Pbase's policy, as this time the rants hadn't gotten even to 10% of those held in the past....

What happened ?
Maybe this time Don stepped too close, or on some big shot's toes and all prior notions were put aside and the "fast Track" approach took over this time...

Not taking sides here as i haven't done it in the past either ..just doing an honest and fair balance of actions..

... Nevertheless, there is always the possibilty that i could be wrong in my assumptions, therefore i remain open minded and receptive, in case there some info i could've overlooked ..

Thanks for your attention...

Kind Regards to All....
What a wonderful world.

texindian
 
Posts: 40


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:00 am


Either there has been a change of heart, or the reports of the deletion of Don's 'disturbing' gallery have been greatly exaggerated. I had never been to that gallery before, but I was just there to see if it had really been deleted. It has not been deleted as of this post. It has, according to Don's intro page, been removed from the Favorites list. That pretty much ends my concern in the matter, which was limited to this idea of censorship based on what appeared to be complaints from those of a different mindset. Those that want to invite invectives know where to find him. Those that think politics have no part here can simply stay away. Seems pretty simple to me.

kikitiki
 
Posts: 11


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:52 am


pinemikey wrote:Typical immature flammer. Anyone disagrees and they get insulted. Why don't you just go over to fotki and be a happy little camper?


You're a typical Troll moron.

I have more then one photo storage space on the net. I don't rely on just one. Get your head out of the sand and wake up. :roll:

kikitiki
 
Posts: 11


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:54 am


pinemikey wrote:All I know is they can take their stinking political crap someplace else. If they love it so much, create your own website and have a fun time swallowing and spitting so much acid.



Mikey if you're that sensitive then perhaps you should learn the rules of the net when something offends..SOB..."Scroll on by!" :roll:

pinemikey
 
Posts: 3065
Location: Cypress, Texas


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:58 am


With only 7 posts on PBase forums and you call me a troll?

kikitiki
 
Posts: 11


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:43 am


pinemikey wrote:With only 7 posts on PBase forums and you call me a troll?



It's not the quantity of posts that count but QUALITY Mikey...Live with it! :lol:

matiasasun
 
Posts: 1493


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:13 am


kikitiki, Dude:

I´m gonna say this once; Take it easy. You are starting to become offensive here.

Matias, Chile
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kikitiki
 
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Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:31 am


matiasasun wrote:kikitiki, Dude:

I´m gonna say this once; Take it easy. You are starting to become offensive here.

Matias, Chile



Ask me if I care Mattias. If you think this mild reparte is offensive then you are obviously oversensitive and should never leave your house. I see offensive everyday of my life the minute I step outside my door, what do you see?

framewerkz
 
Posts: 752


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:42 am


I see someone who's going to get "scrolled on by" a lot.
For the arty-farty crap, go here:
http://www.pbase.com/framewerkz

matiasasun
 
Posts: 1493


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:54 am


I see a lot of good people and beautiful things. But you should also change your neighborhood :idea: .
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mysticchyna
 
Posts: 189

He is aware of it now.

Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:55 am


ukexpat wrote:
chuckh wrote:I am curious WHY Don's gallery was deleted and yet Ted L's gallery remains???http://www.pbase.com/automat42/our_america

Double standard????


Maybe Slug was not aware of the contents of ted's gallery?


Well now he is.
My Eyes R My Camera....I behold the world within my lens..........
--lisa

kikitiki
 
Posts: 11


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:01 am


matiasasun wrote:I see a lot of good people and beautiful things. But you should also change your neighborhood :idea: .




:lol: It has nothing at all to do with my neighborhood. :lol:

texindian
 
Posts: 40


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:55 pm


Slug, in the interest of fair play. here's a purely political gallery in the favorites categories that needs to be gone from there like the rest:

http://www.pbase.com/kayakbiker/bush_signs&page=2

streetkid
 
Posts: 5


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:42 pm


I didn't and don't know the guy (Don) . . . but when I saw that he had set up a gallery in reply to the Kerry one (one where I DID post, saying "it was 'great!" . . as in a 'funny' way) . . . I saw where this was leading, so I posted a short reply at Don's saying I wish NONE (as in either one) of this political stuff was going on here at pbase. The next thing I know is, I'm being called a "communist" a "libber" . ."you people" on and on . . He was going crazy! THEN I begin to get personal messages from him, telling me it was "HIS website and I was NOT to come back!". . . It was hilarious!! But, THAT behavior is crossing the line and the reason I feel he is dealing with consequences from pbase. I never reported this behavior, though obviously he did this to others that did. I DO support slug taking action. To compare this to "book burning" and all that other cr*p is utterly ridiculous.

trimoon
 
Posts: 352


Post Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:17 pm


kikitiki wrote:Where does it say that Pbase is for your own photography? Also, ANYTHING on the net without a tradmark is PUBLIC domain, that means FREE for anyone to use!


Wrong! If it’s on the net it’s do’s not mean PUBLIC domain.
Steve

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